Thursday, November 03, 2005


Republican American Values: TORTURE

Republican American Values: Torture, secret prisons, people caused to "disappear," "Enhanced Interrogation Techniques," and "rendition."

Secret "Black" CIA Torture Prisons

"The CIA has been hiding and interrogating some of its most important al Qaeda captives at a Soviet-era compound in Eastern Europe..."

"The secret facility is part of a covert prison system set up by the CIA nearly four years ago..."

"The hidden global internment network is a central element in the CIA's unconventional war on terrorism. It depends on the cooperation of foreign intelligence services, and on keeping even basic information about the system secret from the public, foreign officials and nearly all members of Congress charged with overseeing the CIA's covert actions."

"Virtually nothing is known about who is kept in the facilities, what interrogation meth
ods are employed with them, or how decisions are made about whether they should be detained or for how long."

"...the CIA has not even acknowledged the existence of its black sites."

It is illegal for the government to hold prisoners in such isolation in secret prisons in the United States, which is why the CIA placed them overseas...

Washington Post

More Torture Photos

Torture Photos on Flickr

Col. Janis Karpinski: Blame "Goes All the Way to The Top"

  • How the military hid "ghost detainees" from the International Red Cross in violation of international law;
  • Maj. Gen. Geoffrey Miller calling for the Gitmoization of Abu Ghraib and for prisoners to be "treated like dogs";
  • Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's secret memos on interrogation policies that hung on the prison’s walls;
  • The military’s use of private (and possibly Israeli) interrogators;
  • Her dealings with the International Red Cross;
  • Why she feels, as a female general, she has been scapegoated for a scandal that has left the military and political leadership unscathed; and
  • Calls for Donald Rumsfeld, Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, Alberto Gonzalez and Maj. Gen. Geoffrey Miller to be held accountable for what happened.

includes rush transcript....

Democracy Now!

Donald Rumsfeld has LIED TO CONGRESS about Torture

Army Capt. Ian Fishback is plainly a very brave man. Not only has the 26-year-old West Pointer done a tour in Iraq and one in Afghanistan, he has had the guts to suggest publicly that his boss, Donald Rumsfeld, lied to Congress. After making headlines a month ago for alleging that systematic interrogation abuses occurred in Iraq—and that the Pentagon was not forthright about it...

...a growing critical mass of soldiers is coming forward with allegations of abuse...

There were freaking horrible things people were doing. I saw [detainees] who had feet smashed with hammers. One detainee told me he had been forced by Marines to sit on an exhaust pipe, and he had a softball-sized blister to prove it.

Fishback has also won a devoted and powerful ally in Sen. John McCain, who says that the captain's tale "is what I view as the tip of the iceberg in the military today."


When Saddam does torture it is bad. But it is OK for me to torture people!

"Iraq is free of rape rooms and torture chambers."

"We know about the rape rooms and the torture chambers of Saddam Hussein's regime. We welcome their decision to move forward on a tribunal to hold people accountable for those atrocities."

"One thing is for certain: There won't be any more mass graves and torture rooms and rape rooms."

"Iraqi men and women are no longer carried to torture chambers and rape rooms"

"Every woman in Iraq is better off because the rape rooms and torture chambers of Saddam Hussein are forever closed."

"They could torture people and have rape rooms, and the world would turn their head from that and let it happen. But they can't do that anymore."

"There are no more rape rooms and torture chambers in Iraq."

"Iraq was a unique situation because Saddam Hussein had constantly defied the world and had threatened his neighbors, had used weapons of mass destruction, had terrorist ties, had torture chambers"

-- Bush and the other Republican Criminals in his administration

Slate: Rape Rooms

Bush is serious: he REALLY wants to torture people!

The Bush administration pledged yesterday to veto legislation banning the torture of prisoners by US troops after an overwhelming and almost unprecedented revolt by loyalist congressmen.

The late-night Senate vote saw the measure forbidding torture passed by 90 to nine, with most Republicans backing the measure. Most senators said the Abu Ghraib abuse scandal and similar allegations at the Guantanamo Bay prison rendered the result a foregone conclusion.

The administration's extraordinary isolation was underlined when the Senate Republican majority leader, Bill Frist, supported the amendment.

The man behind the legislation, Republican Senator John McCain, who was tortured as a prisoner in Vietnam, said the move was backed by American soldiers. His amendment would prohibit the "cruel, inhumane or degrading" treatment of prisoners in the custody of America's defence department.


"Become like an animal"

The story that broke the story on “extraordinary rendition,” also known as outsourcing torture:

On January 27th, President Bush, in an interview with the Times, assured the world that “torture is never acceptable, nor do we hand over people to countries that do torture.” Maher Arar, a Canadian engineer who was born in Syria, was surprised to learn of Bush’s statement. Two and a half years ago, American officials, suspecting Arar of being a terrorist, apprehended him in New York and sent him back to Syria, where he endured months of brutal interrogation, including torture....

New Yorker

Oh by the way, torture does NOT work!

Forget, for a moment, the legal and moral questions surrounding government-sanctioned torture and consider the practical one: Does it produce useful information?

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who was tortured repeatedly during his 5½ years of solitary confinement in North Vietnam, answers no: The tortured will say anything to stop the pain.

McCain's insight offers lessons for U.S. conduct in the war on terror: Abusing prisoners elicits intelligence of questionable worth. It also unquestionably undercuts American values and produces international revulsion.

McCain and a majority of senators from both parties understand this. The Bush administration still doesn't get it....

USA Today

I love how you post pictures with no context or proof of what they are. I'm gonna go post a picture of a dead guy lying in a street, and then put a caption on it: "This guy is lying dead in the street because Obama just shot him moments earlier." There's JUST AS MUCH proof that my photo is what it says it is, as there is that YOUR photos are what you say they are.

Stop lying.
What's with this 'Republican' tagline to torture, rape and warfare when even as a Brit I realised in 2008 that the Democrats were completely taken over by Jews! And BOTH parties, all parties are run by the Zionista Israeliti Mafioso Bankster mob!
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